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New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises

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New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises
Other landing craft. What was laid on April 23, 2019?

Everyone remembers the epic with the BDK project 11711 – a record long-term construction, and a record not only in time, it was built 14 years, but also by how simple the ship eventually turned out to be our ship “too tough”. What is one only the last alteration of the ship, “refused” to demagnetize after construction! And the fleet, three times changing the TTZ on the already under construction ship, “distinguished” here no less.

In the end, the ship was still unfinished. Extremely unfortunate – from designed with error contours of the hull, to the concept, the ship was and remains the object of well-deserved criticism. Nevertheless, as already mentioned, the bookmark of such ships would be an absolute plus for the Navy, simply because no matter how bad they may be, and better such ships than none. Domestic BDK seriously was worn out, at the same time, the ships of the project 775 built in Poland for a long time, and because of this there are difficulties with their repair, the update is necessary, so that the news about the laying of a couple of ships of the project 11711 was received positively by almost all observers.

However, the ceremony itself revealed that the ships being laid had very little in common with the 11711 projects we knew. Look at the photo.

This is the lead ship of project 11711, Ivan Gren.
Other landing craft. What was laid on April 23, 2019?

Everyone remembers the epic with the BDK project 11711 – a record long-term construction, and a record not only in time, it was built 14 years, but also by how simple the ship eventually turned out to be our ship “too tough”. What is one only the last alteration of the ship, “refused” to demagnetize after construction! And the fleet, three times changing the TTZ on the already under construction ship, “distinguished” here no less.

In the end, the ship was still unfinished. Extremely unfortunate – from designed with error contours of the hull, to the concept, the ship was and remains the object of well-deserved criticism. Nevertheless, as already mentioned, the bookmark of such ships would be an absolute plus for the Navy, simply because no matter how bad they may be, and better such ships than none. Domestic BDK seriously was worn out, at the same time, the ships of the project 775 built in Poland for a long time, and because of this there are difficulties with their repair, the update is necessary, so that the news about the laying of a couple of ships of the project 11711 was received positively by almost all observers.

However, the ceremony itself revealed that the ships being laid had very little in common with the 11711 projects we knew.

This is the lead ship of project 11711, Ivan Gren. And now look at the image laid ships. This is a completely different project actually! Instead of two superstructures – one, the flight deck is expanded to provide simultaneous flights of two helicopters. Moreover, the head of the USC A. Rakhmanov said that the ships and the displacement will be different – 7-8 thousand tons.
New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises

Mortgaged ships have very little in common with the “original” 11711. It is surprising that so characterized the ships were not used another Cypher project – they deserve it.

The project, however, raises questions. The figure clearly shows that the ship kept the bow gate for unloading equipment “at the stop” on the shore. But for a vehicle with the same displacement, very close to the shore seems extremely doubtful. For him, far more logical would look descent technique for going through the aft port and sending it to shore on their own. Frankly, the loss of this method of the landing below and for the landing, and for ships. The only problem is the lack of a marine armored vehicle, but since the ship is made, from which it is possible to carry out a full-fledged over-the-horizon landing, it would be worth spending money on the car – especially since it can be used with conventional BDK, and for the same over-the-horizon landing.

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The gate is a problematic node. The ships that are equipped with them, there is a danger of knocking out the gate wave when sleming, and such cases were in the fleets. As a measure of protection, the BDK used “strapping” gate in the transport position, which at the same time, slows down and complicates their use, as well as the ship tacks, at an angle to the wave, which reduces the speed of the transitions in some cases. It is clear that new ships will inherit this problem. Was it justified? More likely no than Yes. Here you can remember the Americans who decided the issue with the gate on the tank “Newport” by abandoning the gate in favor of a complex folding bridge — and it was not just done. The second “weak point” is the very possibility of the ship’s approach to the shore. Physics cannot be fooled, and 7000 tons of displacement for the ship, with dimensions comparable to the BDK project 11711, means a large draft. But for the approach to the shore of small sediment is extremely important. Even for the “classic” tank destroyer is available for landing a very small part of the world coast. For a new 7,000-tonner, it will be even less. And it is very easy for the enemy anti-landing defense, as places where a big ship can approach the shore a bit.

Do the new ships have a docking camera? We don’t know that yet. Let’s just say for a ship of this class, it would look very logical, in fact, the Navy would have received a couple of almost full (less a problematic gate) DWCD, which we have long and hard is not enough. But until we even know if the ship the ability to produce vehicles from the stern.

Well, wait.
New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises

Anyway, one huge advantage over the standard “Grenas” Vladimir Andreev ” and “Vasily Trushin” is: a large flight deck allows you to raise a couple of helicopters at the same time. This is a huge step forward in comparison with the “Ivan Grenom” and “Peter Morgunov”, which in the presence of two helicopters on Board have the ability to lift into the air only one, then you need to pull out of the close and narrow hangar second and prepare it for takeoff. This, admittedly, is a poor scheme of using helicopters, and it is very good that everything will be different on new ships.

As you can see, although there are questions about the new BDK, it is clear that the designers and the fleet are working on errors, and trying to fix something. It would be, of course, much more useful to use the experience of countries with more experience in the construction of amphibious ships than Russia, at least the same Singapore or Indonesia. But we traditionally do not learn from the mistakes of others, only on their own.

Well, at least that’s it. It is better to learn from your mistakes than not to learn at all. So be that as it may, and the news of the laying of new landing ships – joyful doubly, and because of the fact of bookmarks, and due to the fact that it seems, began work on the bugs. Sooner or later, but we will come to the optimal appearance and landing ships, and landing forces in General.

All this can not but rejoice.

But the landing craft is not limited.

Other frigates

On leaked in press rumors, two new frigate project 22350 have not 16 “of cells” under offensive missile weapons, and 24!

Here’s the news with no positive options. Now the new frigates in the power of their offensive missile weapons (cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, plourac’h) are potentially exceeded even cruiser of the project 1164, with only 16 heavy supersonic ASM. Yes, they are, in theory, fly farther, in practice, for such a range is just impossible to get reliable targeting, that nullifies this advantage. But the quantity is the quantity. And “Amelio” and “Chichagov”, according to the above information, will be able to carry the same 16 supersonic PCR, only “Onyx”, and they still have room for eight other missiles – such as PLUR, or “Caliber” to strike the “earth”. With an additional launcher for eight missiles, the total number of missiles on Board, along with anti-aircraft in the new ships reached 56 – an unprecedented lot for a ship of class “Frigate”.

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It is worth this time to be happy for the fleet without reservations.

Where “stuck” third launcher? Apparently, near the old two – at least, other possible locations on the ship is not visible. We must also remember that the frigates of the project 22350 differ very dense layout, and for the embedding of another launcher from the engineers it took a serious strain.

Well, what they did (if 24 missiles – true).

Political issue
New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises

Among other things, in such a momentous day for the fleet was surprising absence at the ceremony of laying new ships of the Navy Commander-in-Chief Admiral Korolev. I must say that about the “precarious” situation Queen rumors for a long time. And there are clear signs that the President is already seriously irritated by what is happening with the Navy, the development of which he paid great attention, is full. From this point of view, the absence of the commander-in-chief next to the President may be a sign of clouds gathering over him. I have to say – for good reason. The number of crazy decisions concerning naval construction exceeded the “critical mass” even under Admiral Chirkov, but Korolev was able to do the seemingly impossible: to aggravate the situation even more. If we assume that the President is dissatisfied with the commander-in-chief and that that is why the commander-in-chief was not at the ceremony of laying new ships, then perhaps we are waiting for a new commander-in-chief. Not to miss again with the candidate.

Spoon of tar
New ships have been laid. There were no major surprises

Unfortunately, only positive not go off. Sad thoughts evoked the ceremony of withdrawal from the boathouse PLA “Belgorod” — radically rebuilt the former modernized missile project 949AM. If everything went as it should, then this ship would have entered service several years ago, as the first deeply modernized 3rd generation missile carrier armed with at least 72 cruise missiles. With advanced electronics and reduced noise. Some experts argue that since Belgorod would be built as a carrier of “Calibers” at once, and would not be rebuilt from the standard 949A, the number of missiles on Board could be increased to hundreds.
Now we will never know – the missile submarine was mutilated during perestroika, and instead of dozens of cruise missiles on the sides are equipped (equipped?) launchers for six SPA Poseidon.

Which, as we know, are useless from a military point of view, vulnerable and have no advantages over ballistic missiles (on the contrary, all the advantages of missiles).

The boat was embedded in an additional section to ensure the deployment of the nuclear deepwater station, the energy module “Shelf” and the NPA “Harpsichord”, and she will not go to the Navy, and in the GUGI MO, which uses the SPA project “Poseidon” as an excuse to increase budgets and gain additional power in the Ministry of defense. This ship is lost to the Navy.

There is no dispute, what makes GOOGIE, it is important (except for “of Poseidon”), but it would be quite enough converted SUBMARINES of the project 667BDR, are now massively decommissioned in the Pacific fleet, but not yet disposed of. And there was no need to “spend” a new missile carrier for the needs of GUGI, it was a decision somewhere between a stupid crime and criminal stupidity. However, the project “Poseidon” in the future will cost us very expensive, much more expensive than the lost submarine.

One way or another, but in General, firstly, good events on April 23 were much more than bad, and secondly, there is a trend to correct the situation in the surface shipbuilding.

It is still “in its infancy”, but it can not but rejoice.

Although and to be sad, as it turned out, there is about then.

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